[poohbear]

Can any of you Java breeders on here help this lad out with his chicks???

http://www.birdboard.com/forum/canaries-fi...ing-chicks.html

This post has been edited by poohbear: Mar 13 2008, 06:49 PM

[Njai]

I haven't experienced that to date but I'll see what I can do.

[Shaun]

do you think it could be caused by mites??

shaun

[zebedee]

could the parents be pecking them?

[MickC]

My money is on one of the parent birds doing it, sometimes its wings, sometimes legs and sometimes both

Seen it in budgies before now but could never really explain why apart from over zealous parents cleaing the nest and mistaking the tiny pink bits as droppings or whatever

If it done too frequently it may even impair correct feather growth for life

[Malky]

With you 100% on this one Mick,a stone blind cert the parent/parents are the culprits, if it was mite the birds would just look extremely pale.


Malky

[Shaun]

I have had budgies 'over preening' but never drawing blood, only feathers, it usually ends in the chicks fledging with a patch missing on the back of their heads, sometimes on the back, between the wings.


Shaun

[Njai]

Is the lad reading this?

[poohbear]

Is the lad reading this?

Time over there is 11 hours ahead of us so they are probably in bed now.After a few more answers later, I'll send him a link....he should get it by the time he wakes up.
Paul.

[andy d]

Unfortunately id have to agree with malky and mick c, does sound very much like the parent birds ,had a pair of fawns a few years back that would de feather every chick in the nest i say pair it was the hen that was the culprit and she passed the trait onto every young bird that fledged so it goes without saying that once i realised this i stopped breeding from the hen and any young she had produced.
andy d

[Njai]

The chick wont have any feathers at five days it'll still be just naked skin.

[clive]

Ive seen this with a few breeds of birds,And yes it is the parents i thought at first that is done by mistake as has all ready been stated the birds cleaning out the nest but after i noted this happening again i checked the nest box checking the young for mite and i noted that the small downy feathers were infact being used in the construction of the nest lining,so all i can put this down to is the fact that the birds are over fit,but id like to point out that i didnt loose any youngsters but noted on leaving the nest they were badly plucked if possable i would advice that the chicks are fostered, if this is not possable then unless the chicks are about 16 days old he could try removing the hen bird,this well induce the cock to finish rearing the clutch on his own as the hen wont be there to divert is attention

[andy d]

I would like to point out that although the hen i had was plucking all the young one of them that emerged from the nest is still being used as a show bird and has won on the show bench and will probably be there at stafford for a second year at the BSOTY provided hes not moulting .
andy d

[Rowland]

I would have to agree it has to be the parents causing the bleeding.

Rowland

[evertonian]

Hi

I agree and feel the parents are to blame, one or both!

Personally I would remove the cock bird and leave the hen to rear the young.

Next round or eggs if fertile I would remove the cock again once you are sure they are feritle that is and you will soon see if nothing happens on this round the cock was to blame. If it occurs again when hen alone with young then its is the hen.

If you can you could pair the cock to another hen that does not peck at the young to see it happens with the new pairing then the cock is the culprit.

Hen Javas are more than capable of rearing young on their own in my opinion so it would all work out ok I think.

Just my thoughts and way for dealing with this if it happened to me.